Jamies Story Page20
on January 19, 2012 at 12:01 amAbout half way through the livestream I got too hot and did the rest shirtless. All the more reason to watch it seems.
I’m now off to Ireland and Akumacon! Going to put on a fantastic burlesque show with a bunch of very talented Ladies, and who knows, maybe I’ll strip again then.
Because of flights back on Monday I’ll miss the next livestream and update, to keep you occupied until then I totally recommend checking out Rooster Tails:
http://www.roostertailscomic.com/
Can Jamie’s mother get more $&%#X$%?
I guess hse might love him in her twisted ways but she seems more like an enemy than a mother.
Yes! People got mad when I said she was a bitch- but she is- totally worse than Natalie because she’s his fikkin mother! But she only sees him as an extension of her with no thoughts or wants of his own, and of course anything he might earn or produce is hers too.
A lot of mothers are more of an enemy to their child. It might not start out that way, but it happens frequently. A judge once told me that I better be good to my mother because she is the only one who truly loves me. Yet, my mother abuses me to this day. (emotionally abusive now that I’m an adult) It sickens me to think about how much people take for granted the notion that mothers are saints.
I can agree with that right there. After all my entire family took my mothers words at face value when she never once had in mind what was good for me. She constantly her whole life only cared about the ideas she had for me and how to make them work. So she never stood up for me in school when I needed it, against other mothers, family, a job, nothing. My mother always just assumed what everyone was saying about me was right. Thus she thought I was more or less insane and even tried to have me committed once. Thank god, at the time I was smart enough to know how to stop that utter BS.
Now today… she has disowned me and only talks to me on holidays. I’m not allowed around her home anymore, she won’t come to my wedding if I have one, you name it. I wish I had well had the brains years ago to cut off relations myself when I was rolling in cash.
When I was 12, my mom started abusing me. Locking me in closets, hitting me with wooden spoons, constantly yelling at me and telling me how worthless I was…
Just before I turned 18 a whole bunch of stuff just finally got too much for me, so I downed an entire bottle of Excedrin to try to kill myself before school one day. When the school found out what I’d done, they sent me to the hospital. My mom came too, and then used the room’s phone to call my dad and tell him, right in front of me, that I wasn’t really suicidal and had just done tried to kill myself to ‘inconvenience her’.
About a month after I got out of the hospital (and mental ward), just after I’d turned 18, my mom decided that me living at the house was ‘detrimental to everyone else’ because I was ‘too hard to get along with’. When my dad wouldn’t let her kick me out, she went with plan B: she wrote the principal of my school a letter saying that I had threatened to kill her (I never had) and that she didn’t feel safe around me. So the school barred me from campus until I could get a psychologist to say that I was not a threat to anyone else or myself. So…I ended up getting committed, again. And while I was there, my mom put a restraining order on me, and then on my dad (kicking him out of his house too) when he got mad about the one on me. (I ended up living in “Therapeutic Foster Care” for several months).
The next time I spoke to my mom I was 20. According to her, everything that happened was my fault, and she ‘only did what she had to do to survive’. To this day (I’m 22 now) she still holds the position that everything that happened was entirely my fault.
Stop talking to your mother. T’s work, and you’ll need to get the cooperation of a lot of other people in your life, but it’s worth it. Six years on and I’m living, if not a perfect life, than a much happier and more fulfilling one.
PS: Trig, you were absolutely right with this being when Mark left XP My theory failed
Yes, it looks like we’ve just skipped two years in that second narrative box. Your theory was that this was an earlier hug unrelated to Matt’s leaving? That was a viable theory. The narration never said that Jamie never hugged anyone before Matt left. It only said he did it rarely and usually under duress.
On another note, we actually see Jamie’s mother’s eyes in this strip. (He doesn’t see them; he’s behind her.)
TRiG.
You can join the army at sixteen over there?
I’m making a rather large assumption that you’re an American when I say this, but you can join at 16 over here too. It’s not often done, because High School is set up to end at 18 instead of 16, but it happens.
If you are speaking about the United States, the minimum age to enlist in the military is currently 17 and only with parental permission. And you still need to obtain a high school diploma or its equivalent within 180 days of enlisting. 16 year olds cannot legally join any branch of the military in the United States.
According to Wikipedia the minimum age for the British Army is 16.5 with parental permission, so assuming that is correct, it seems it would have been feasible for Jamie to go right into the military.
The reason enlisting in the U.S. armed forces is rarely done under age 18 is less to do with high school and more to do with being a legal adult. Until age 18, you can’t legally make your own decisions– or be held responsible for those decisions, anyway, except in extreme cases like rape and murder. Most parents are unhappy with signing their kids up for service, though it does happen… rarely. In 4 years serving, I only met one person who had enlisted at age 17.
does anybody else love reading everybody else’s comments? It’s like going to a book club, except so much better.
I totally agree, I do it since Charlie’s story lol
Yes, me too. or third.
I’ve been re-reading all the stories and with them, the comments that have been posted since the format was changed and commenting was enabled. It’s always slightly depressing when I get to a page with no comments…
Every update I read everyone’s comments. It is awesome.
Same here!
Thirded.
Some people don’t read to comments?
Of course; i do it every page. =)
wow…… Really, Jamie’s mom? REALLY?
It’s nice to note that by this point Jamie realises that his mother doesn’t exactly make the best decisions for him (to say the least). That’s not to say he ever really thought she was a saint, but when he was younger he didn’t think rationally about everything she told him and did to him (he was just a kid, after all), so he just sort of went with it assuming she was the best authority on all things.
Above all else, it proves Jamie is a smart kid, which shows later when he seems to *know* his prejudice against gay relationships is unfounded despite years of being conditioned to think otherwise.
You know, I’m more interested as to where Mark’s bro left. He needs his own spin-off comic.
It would be much more intersting to see him again in Jamie’s comic… it would be some HUGE twist if they actually met and talked properly… or maybe Mark’s brother entering the café or something, forcing everything back up in Jamie’s mind again
I don’t know what exactly it is about Jamie’s mother that just makes me seethe with disgust. *may have mommy isssues*
Because she’s a horrible, horrible woman, who is selfish, manipulative, and places her needs before her son’s at every turn?
^This.
Déjà vu! My mother didn’t want me to enter university and felt I should enter a religious training center instead so I could become a minister despite (or perhaps because) the fact that I was the least religious of all of her kids. She refused to help financially. When she learned I was studying music and creative writing, she went on a long rant about how I’d never find a job and if I INSISTED on an advanced education, I should be studying computers or medicine.
I understand. My parents forced me into a nursing program and said I had to finish it though I hated it every step of the way. I finally last year got the nerve to tell my parents that it was my life. My dad and mom got a divorce 2 months later. My dad still talks to me….. my mom not really. you really have to be yourself. Yeah its hard as Im working 2 jobs now, but its my life and I love living it for me and not anyone else!!!
And I return after a long absence, yes.
Dealing with a rather difficult mother myself, I have to say that yes, Jaime is not being seen as his own individual, but rather an extension of his mother. Individuals such as his mom have this notion that they NEED to be in control, and I seem to see one of two versions of this: either they want to live vicariously through you (that is currently my biggest issue with my mother), or blatantly use you. (The fact that she wants him to go to the army makes me think she essentially wants him to take over what was once her husband’s role — working in the military and being the breadwinner).
Unfortunately, even as a young adult its VERY hard to break off a relations with your parental unit. It only becomes more possible once you are financially (and more importantly) as well as emotionally independent from them. The second part is harder than you think: the scars tend to run deeper than I think many of us will ever realize.
I still have trouble letting my father’s cries for help, guilt trips, and general manipulations, go unanswered. I can’t help but want to help him, even though I’ve been living on my own for 5 years now, and he was never a good parent to begin with.
To some extent I suppose it’s unavoidable. Family sets the standard for a lot of things. And some families set the standard very low.
Seconded. Much to the disappointment of my partners I will always go to help them when the family calls.
Sometimes I am a too rounded person for my own good. one of my partners has compared Jamie’s mother to my own.. I can see the resemblances but when I do that, I start trying to (and scarily succeeding in) justify her actions, the same way I do with my own mother.
Well done Tab, you have yet again made me confront my own life…
@ Kingreaper: Cause obviously you’re the better person, you have empathy and caring for others.
There’s nothing like reading this comic and the comments that come with it to make my life seem perfect. It saddens me how many people actually have to deal with all this torture and hate. At least I know that I won’t have kids until I know that I’m emotionally stable.
Just because you didn’t have to deal with heaps of abuse and persecution doesn’t make your life perfect. Some of us just got to actually be kids and treated mostly decent, even encouraged to follow our dreams.
Holy crap, I’m only just realising a new low for Jamie’s mom: She doesn’t seem to have a job; yelled at Jamie for interrupting his dad while he was working, not because he might get mad, but because he brought money to the house; she may have only kept him because (at least in my country) if she kept the children after a divorce and wasn’t working on her own, the father would have to give her a regular paycheck, and now she wants him to join the army mostly so he can send her another paycheck. She’s abusing her own child and she only cares about getting money regularly without working for it! It makes me even more disgusted (and greatly thankful that my parents supported me when I decided to study Literature)!
Oh my God, I never noticed that before! o.o That’s TERRIFYING. This woman is even more nucking futs than I realized.
Thank you for pointing that out!
I really hope that Jamie ends up getting a job to save up enough to move out of his mom’s house, but based on this I’m slightly worried that he got a job to further support his mother because she required it.
I’m also slightly amazed (but glad) that his mom lets him do anything related to art at this point, since she doesn’t see the practicality in it.
i just noticed, this is the first time we have seen jamie’s mum’s face since his second page. she seems horrid.
she probably only let him go to uni b.c he got a job too.
i hate this type of parent. children are not something they own, so they should be allowed freedom to make choices about their futures when old enough to.
Though i do think that Jamie needs some serious backbone to stand up to that spawn of evil… I wonder if she will try killing him once he starts to date charlie
Fuckin’ Jamie wanting to be all artistic and shit. Instead, he should get into social work and learn how to be a kind and caring human being by helping others.
You forget that the type of work you do doesn’t always mean you will become a better or worse person because of it. Jamie has always tries his best for other people (e.g. his mother and Mark), so it’s not like he doesn’t care – it’s just that he’s in survival mode at all times and thus does his best to fend off anything he interprets as bad.
I think a creative direction would be better for him, really, if only because creative things help people to express themselves and sort out their feelings. It’s not exactly a secret that being creative has a therapeutic effect on people, so it’ll give Jamie a chance to express himself and grow as a person. Even if he might not become the nicest person in the world, his heart is definitely in the right place. He just needs to make the right decisions and endure his mother until he can escape her.
Also, he is studying Psychology, even if only at sixth form level – that could be a benefit if he does ever decide to go into assisting people with similar pasts to his own. At this moment in time, he probably has enough blocks that he’s not suitable to go into any kind of carework until he’s worked through them – this is still pre-Charlie, and while he’s still working through a lot of the prejudices his mother brainwashed him into.
Guys, don’t feed the troll.
Wow, I’m glad at least some of you like him. Otherwise, his very creation would be in vain. I can’t believe he bullies Alex even though he knows (to an extent) how it feels by how his mom bullies him. And then he tries to gain pity by those hurting, pleading puppydog eyes…NOT BY ME.
You know he’s just a character in a story, right? Why are you expending so much effort into hating on a comic character?
Because they suffer severe butthurt syndrome and need to get over themselves.
He’s aloud his opinion. Until he starts insulting YOU, leave him alone.
where was he trying to get pity, again?
HEY, EXCUSE ME, I know I shouldn’t yell at people on the internet, but really?! REALLY?!! Just getting a job as a social worker DOES NOT make you a more “kind and caring human being”. I grew up in a household with a manipulative, controlling, and psychological abusive father, who also happened to be a social worker for his entire adult career. I know that’s just one example, but really. Don’t fucking generalize that shit.
Also, Jamie really is a caring person, as has been pointed out before. A lot of the time, victims of abuse tend to have a somewhat warped view of the world, especially under the kind of conditions that Jamie has suffered. So even in the situations that we’ve already seen in this comic, he felt that he was helping to solve what, in his worldview, was a serious problem.
Jamie’s is a classic case of the abused becoming the abuser.
This page broke my heart. I always wondered why Jamie was such an a$$ but who can blame the poor kid. My mother raised me as a do what you want because you can, I believe in you attitude. I do, however, see more of this kind of attitude from other parents :/.
Tab coming to an Irish con? And I havent even heard of the con?! Darn :/ Im going Eirtakon (ireland largest con) later this year, ut I hadn’t heard of Akumakon, its in Dublin right?
*google powers*
Bravo on another well drawn page … the plot thickens … as usual, damn his mom pushing him around into a career he clearly wont flourish in, Jamie is far to passive to go out and murder people, even when he teases Murfs, he doesnt even do it out of hate and malice, it would be impossible for Jamie to go around shooting random people, hes just. too. nice.
My parents let me do what I want, which is why I spend all day in college playing video games with boys
but I still get work done, with computers and stuff, so I do work too xP
Can someone punch Jamie’s mother in the face? Please?
I’m prepared, at the moment, to cut Jamie’s mother some slack. Not because I think she’s right (I don’t!) but because I can see where she’s coming from. She’s got Jamie’s best interests at heart (or so she thinks), and she wants him to earn money because she’s been through a stressful marriage break-up and has presumably lost a great deal now that Jamie’s father isn’t around to pay the bills. Not being an intellectual herself, she doesn’t see the value of higher or further education, and because she hasn’t been paying proper attention to her son, she doesn’t realise that he really isn’t cut out for the armed forces. Her big failing is her religious mania. I don’t necessarily think (at this stage) that she’s a ‘bad’ person, but the overdone religious fundamentalist attitude has already caused a lot of problems and will probably do so again. Who knows, she may even have mental health issues. Yes, she may turn out to be a complete @rs3. She may turn out to be every bit as bad as she’s being painted. At the moment though, we don’t know what’s going on. The mania could even be a symptom, along with her intolerace, of depressive illness.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
The only reason I don’t see this as wanting what’s best for him, which I think is a reasonable argument for some slack to be cut, is that she wants the money he makes to be sent home to her.
That entirely seems like this is what she wants to happen so that she can live the life she imagined, rather than thinking of what her son wants or needs in the slightest.
but could the money bit just be how Jamie saw the situation and not what was actually said to him?
I would assume Jamie to tell the truth over his mother, seeing as how those are the two options given.
So, I began reading this comic about a year ago when it had only stemmed as far as the very embryonic stages of Charlie’s story. I stopped after I reached the end, bookmarked it, always intending to come back and check for more pages but never getting around to it.
Recently, however, about two weeks ago, I stumbled across the little “Khaos Komix” bookmark tab which was previously long amongst the clutter that is my crowded browser toolbar.
And oh, how GLAD I am I did.
This story is absolutely phenomenal in so many respects. The stories are brutally honest, cutting whilst retaining a tinge of the dark humour that we’ve all come to love in your series, Tab. The most amazing, eye-opening thing for me, however, are the comments people leave. Seeing how this humble internet comic is reaching out and touching so many lives is as incredible as it is heart breaking. I think you’ve created something more than a beautiful piece of art here: I think you’ve given people a place to vent and confide what they can’t anywhere else, and for that you deserve immeasurable praise.
Personally as a cis-gendered straight girl, I’ve never been on the receiving end of any homo/transphobic bullying, but loads of my friends are or have been. It makes me physically sick that some people can be so narrow minded even in this day and age, but your comic’s portrayal of the straight allies as well as the bullies are so refreshing, tasteful and true to the bone. I’ve never seen anything quite like Khaos Komix; I doubt anyone has.
Which is awesome because hey: this stuff is brilliant. Well done and thank you so much, Tab, for this tremendously affecting and life-changing work!
What is “cis-gendered”?
A cis-gendered individual is a person who is happy/comfortable/feels right with the gender they were assigned at birth.
Couchfort Cisgendered is a term for a person who asociates with the gender that is related to their biological sex that they’re born with (eg male and female) in the context of Khaos Komix cis gendered characters include Steve, Mark,Amber,Nay and Alex while Tom and Charlie arent cisgendered as they identified themselves with the opposite gender to their original biological sex
Stupid question alert: What does the “cis” in cis-gendered stand for? I thought it might stand for “comfortable in skin”, but I am totally prepared to be wrong.
“Cis” is a Latin-derived prefix meaning “to this (the near) side.” This is of course in contrast to “trans,” meaning “across.”
Ah. That makes way more sense. Thank you for answering my question. ::bows::
You’re welcome. And remember, no such thing as a stupid question. ^^
Not to sound like a complete asshole, but that term seems kind of pointless/redundant. But okay, I learned something new today.
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If you want to write about something like gender, you need terms for everything, believe me. I studied gender-science and it really pisses you off how many things out there do not have an actual term to refer it by. And the cisgendered are believed to be the biggest group – so why wouldn’t they need a term?
When you’re talking about the sky, unless its doing something other than being blue, you don’t call it the blue sky literally every time you refer to the sky to make sure everyone is on the same page. Maybe that’s not the best analogy and it will probably piss somebody off, but that’s just the way I see it. If Jasmine wrote “I’m a straight girl” I wouldn’t assume anything but she’s a girl anatomically, who’s sexually straight. So adding cis-gendered girl seems redundant to me.
Not saying there shouldn’t be a term, obviously its useful if you’re writing a gender-science article or term paper. But outside that, especially talking about yourself, seems redundant.
That’s why we need the word cisgender. Otherwise what cisgender people are called is “normal” or “real” which puts trangender people as abnormal. That’s what’s fucked up. When I say I am a guy, you, Couchfort, would assume that I am cisgender. This is what a huge majority of the world thinks. However, I think that a lot of the people who read Khaos would say that they don’t know if I am cis or trans or whatever until I specify.
One way that we put ideas behind using the word cisgender into practice is by asking everyone what pronoun they prefer to be used about them. This works well in big groups, like discussion meetings or what have you. We go around the circle and say our name, school, year, maybe some ice breaker thing like what happened this weekend or what kind of animal you’d be, and your Preferred Gender Pronoun (PGP). Especially since I go to a women’s college, most of the people in the circle say ‘she’. It’s not that you say your pronoun if it’s not “obvious,” and everyone else needs to say it. EVERYONE, including normative-looking cis girls, say their PGP. It creates a safe space for those of us who are incorrectly pronouned all the time. It is super awkward for me to always have to correct people, and I don’t want to say “Hi I’m Ben I go by he” all the time.
What you are demonstrating is the unbelievable privilege that cisgender people have. Your gender is obvious to most people. You aren’t an exception to the rule.
People aren’t cis until proven trans. They’re just people.
@accolon I was tempted so much to use heteronormativity, but I didn’t want to use too many queer studies geeky words.
I just also wanted to say that that is a really good explanation!
I’m not a Queer Studies nerd, but I did find myself struggling to explain gender and sex in a paper I wrote once. It was a Poli Sci paper and I was arguing that the post-revolutionary government in Iran was transforming gender roles into sex roles. It required a lot of explaining as to what the terms were, why they were different, and just looking at how using these terms in the right context could help or hinder. It was a challenging paper, so I thought your comment was particularly enlightening. I’ll have to remember this in the future!
It’s like this: I have a friend who writes m/m romance novels. When I mention this in conversation, I inevitably have to specify this if the conversation goes beyond “my friend writes romance lit”. Because I have to specify that she writes GAY romance novels, which doesn’t sit write with me, I make it up to myself by referring to heterosexual romance as STRAIGHT romance novels.
At the moment, we live in a heteronormative society. Anyone who doesn’t identify as heterosexual and cisgendered has to come out and announce their sexuality and gender. Labels like straight and cisgendered might seem redundant and unnecessary, but they work to move away from heteronormative. When I tell people I’m asexual, I’m not coming out, I’m revealing an aspect of myself. On the flipside of that, then, when my friend tells people he’s straight, he’s not saying “I’m normal”, he’s saying “I’m straight”. It becomes less about coming out, and more about specifying an aspect of ourselves. “I’m straight” begins to carry the same weight as “I’m gay”. “I am biologically a woman and psychologically a man” is on the same level as “I am biologically and psychologically a woman”.
At least, that’s how I see it. I don’t know about anyone else, and I don’t mean to imply that I’m speaking for anyone else. But I think seeming redundancy is a small price to pay for progress.
Interesting answers from both you and Bentley. Definitely enjoyed reading what both of you had to say on the topic. I can’t say I’m thoroughly sold on the idea but at least you made a whole lot of sense and I understand and can completely respect that.
One thing I would say is that your language is still privileging cis identities; it identifies the bodies of cis women as ‘biologically female’ and the bodies of cis men as ‘biologically male’, then undermines the authenticity of trans people’s bodies with that. My body is not a male body; it does not belong to a male person.
Your example might be better put “I was assigned female at birth, but I am a man” and “I was assigned female at birth, and I am a woman.”
I mean, of course it’s inconvenient that there aren’t good ungendered terms to refer to bodies specifically (XY/XX-typical? You see the issue), but it’s still important to keep on top of these things.
I think life began getting better for gay people when straight people began labelling themselves. Any “arguments” you can make against the label cis can equally be made against the label straight. It’s the “normal”. It’s the “default”. It “doesn’t need a label”. Bullshit. Labelling one thing as normal implicitly labels the other as deviant. These days, straight people identify as straight. That matters. It helps. And it equally helps if cis people identify as cis.
As a cismale gay guy, I think that identifying as cis is important.
TRiG.
Couchfort, I just wanted to thank you for the way you have been so respectful of both the topic and the answers you received from your question, even if you’re not sold on it. That is a rare thing to find on the internet these days, and the respect that you showed here has honestly made my bad day much better.
Thank you for being awesome.
Whoa… I just wanna say I started reading this (all the stories I mean) the night before last. I’m already all caught up and anticipating it’s continuation. I fucking love this comic… and also it’s really helping me with some of my own issues. Keep it up
Here’s another way to say it, if you’re kinda nerdy.
Transmen is a subset of men.
Cismen is a subset of men.
So, when you say “men,” you are talking about transmen, cismen, and men who do not identify as either. If you want to talk about only cismen, then you have to specify. Sometimes it is more appropriate to say “non-trans men,” when you are talking about those who are men, but do not identify as trans.
So, if you are talking about one person, and they are a man, what we are saying is that the set men contains this individual. But we don’t know if this individual is in the trans subset, the cis subset, or neither.
By identifying herself as a cisgender girl, Jasmine was admitting that she (?) has cisgender privilege, and as such, does not have the same perspective that Tom, Charlie, and I do because we are trans, which was very relevant to the points she was making. If she identified herself as “girl” all we would know is that she belongs to the set girl, but which subset she identified with, if any.
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Your explanation using set theory made my math nerd night.
It’s unjust to say that men and cisgender men is redundant. Saying men meant the same thing that cisgender men did, then they would be the same set. That is, cismen is a subset of men, and men is a subset of cismen. I am going to make an assumption that the intersection of cismen and transmen is the null set. That would mean that transmen CANNOT be a subset of men.
And I take objection to the idea that I am not a man.
I love it when math joins the party.
That’s because math is awesome
I like your explanation way better than mine. :/
Collision of socioethical inclusion in terminology and normal use terms, it happens and has existed loooong before the ideas of gender and sex came into the public eye. eg, What color are nude pantyhose?
That, Kai, is a very good point.
TRiG.
Does anyone else ever wish they could kick Jamie’s mom in the shins?
Constantly. Steel-toed boots optional.
I like Jamie more and more after every page I read…! His story is really touching and I like his honest thoughts and the way he grows. Nobody is perfect… but still everyone have hope, one can always learn and try to act better…
How unfortunate you didn’t have time for updating this yesterday… I’m always looking forward the next page!
I also love to read these comments here – so thank you for writing them people! Especially I like those analyzing ones about characters motives… I have learned many new views to things from these. This comic seems to give channel for many to tell about their own personal history, and I hope this has really helped you<3 And it's also good to learn all kinds of facts and terminology and such…
(This is all also good practice for my English, as I have only studied this language…
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What’s your native language, Elf? I must say, your English is very good for someone who’s had to learn it as a second (?) language/
What’s your native language, Elf? I must say, your English is very good for someone who’s had to learn it as a second (?) language.
Bother. Didn’t mean to post that twice. My apologies.
Thank you Freima! I have studied English more or less since I was 9, so I guess it’s my second language. My native language is Finnish.
I have only comment on this page cuz I started reading like a day ago. Hooked.
xxx
Jamie’s story resonates with me beyond anything because I was abused, back when, and man. I recognize those monsters. I am sad this comic isn’t finished because I feel really weird not knowing what’s going to happen to him, and whether he’s going to pull through. I’ve had it hard, but now I work with children in a nursery and you know what? I make their lives really fucking awesome. Jamie hasn’t had the support I’ve had though. I hope he’ll be okay <3
Thank you, Tab, for making this comic. I really needed to read something like this. People like you keep my gay world spinning.
I started reading the comic yesterday, and I couldn’t stop!!!! Thank you so much for this!
Wow, I love these book group like discussions. I read a lot of web comics and I am usually hesitant to read the comments because eventually someone disagrees and well, internet fighting etc. But there have been two disagreements or more on this thread and they were discussed politely! Rock on Khaos Komix community